@i-am-male said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:
@thestrangest I'm not denying that there could be some merit to that
That meens that you disagree with most of what i said. "I do not deny that some of what you said might be true"="I disagree with most of what you said" but you are pretty good at human communication because it seems you know how to say stuff without getting the other person angry or relying on his emotions rather than his reason to argue.
what I'm against is the fact that given the damage is already done, there's probably a better approach than simply blaming it all on a belief system.
It clearly is not just because of belief systems. I never said that it was
The inherent problems are typically not actually rooted in religion itself
Ugh. Religion is a big part of the problem
religion is just a means to justify taking action on behalf of the problems.
In most cases it orders the actions in its scriptures. That's different
I'll just repeat this until you get it. Religion moderation is a result of secular progress and scriptural ignorance. "Scriptural ignorance" is an important partvof that sentence
Hence why conservatives in the U.S. defend religion as a package deal even though it hinders scientific and technological advancement
it's a political strategy to maintain power via common identity; the world is slowly starting to move away from strict adherence to religious texts and beliefs, making it difficult to even compare "religion" since one's beliefs are largely biased from an individual's point of view.
I wonder where this is heading
On that note, it's challenging to compare the world to the U.S. and then claim Islam is the root of all problems
it is the biggest reason of the issues. I do not understand how you have come to the conclusion that it isn't. Of course it is not the only reason but aslong as there are a big number of muslims which ARE not scripturally ignorent of their religion then they are going to be causing BIG problems.
as this ignores geopolitical climate.
No matter the geopolitical climate that doesn't change what I'm saying. Even in the most secular, democratic countries research shows that a lot of muslims still would prefer to live under shariah law which supporys the death penalty for homosexuality, apostas, cheating along with other bad things.
"The report found that 26 per cent of Muslims did not believe in extremism and 48 per cent would not turn to the police if someone close to them became involved with people linked to Syrian terrorism."
"Forty-three per cent of followers of the religion living in the country believed that parts of the Islamic legal system should replace British law while only 22 per cent opposed the idea.."
"World Muslims who want Sharia
Basically the straight forward answer is 69.7% (call it 70%) of the world’s Muslims want Sharia Law. That is a shocking 70% of about 1.8 billion people, which is 1.26 billion Muslims, 16.8% of the world’s population of 7.5 billion."
It's like saying global warming isn't happening because it snowed the other day."
I see 0 correlation. You really suck at explaining things. Until now i have not understood your train of thought on anything you are saying.
If you look at it historically, Christianity has led to a lot of deaths as well
Hum. Bullshit. Where are the sources of what you're saying here
it's just currently given the socioeconomic conditions of the Middle East and the shitshow that led up to it has made the region more prone to violence
Dude i agree but the geographical climate doesn't matter in the argument I'm making which is "All religions are bad and full of bad ideas but Islam is the most violent(and the motherload of bad ideas)"
and Islam, being their primary faith, is a useful tool for spurring on conflict (by shitshow I mean: modernizing faith/Arab springs, big oil and invasion of Iraq, Kuwait, list goes on starting from WWII).
Sure dude but that doesn't change the fact that if the primary faith was jainism or if there was no primary faith then the level of violence would definitely be a lot lower because guess what? Islamic teachings are naturally violent. Why is this so hard to get
Also, the media polarizing the issue to set the political agenda does not really help. It's great for the ratings though I bet.
I would first resolve the tense geopolitical climate in the Middle East and other Islamic countries, and then if people are still batshit crazy about blowing themselves up, blame religion.
Dude. Of course stuff will get better if you solve the geographical climate but you'll still have problems with islan as demonstrated by the polls i showed from the UK unless you really, really in force religious moderation by secular progress, values and scriptural ignorance.
In islam the scriptures and history are clearly violent but there is hope in moderating muslims. It is not that complicated